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Executives Unpacked Episode 27: Finding Alternative Learning Paths with Matt Tirman

On Episode 27 of Executives Unpacked we were joined by Matt Tirman. Matt is the CCO of Satellogic, a company that is revolutionising access to geospatial data for the benefit of global decision making. Matt is very well known within the industry and has more than 17 years of experience in growing global technology and service companies across the public sector and commercial markets. We asked him about his biggest lessons and best advice, so read on to learn more about this exciting executive!

What would you say is the biggest lesson that you’ve learned during your career?

Be kind to people in a corporate setting. Whether that’s your partners, colleagues or customers, a little kindness goes a long way. One of your previous guests, the CCO of Pixel, stressed the need for empathy and I really liked that answer. Kindness and empathy absolutely will carry the company. You can have a great strategic hire that knows the industry and technology inside-out, but if they’re a cultural train wreck it’s not worth it. 

What do you wish that you’d been told earlier in your career?

The first thing is to stay away from status or title hunting or moving to make a quick buck. Some of the worst decisions I’ve made in my career have been taking a job that promises a little bit more money or seniority. I overlooked other facets of the role such as cultural fit, what’s going to help you grow, where you can make a contribution and feel good about your role. They’re much more important in the long run. With grit and determination, things like money and titles will come.

What is the best bit of advice that you’ve been given?

Don’t get an MBA. I came very close to doing a part-time MBA in 2007, but then I had an opportunity to join a startup as employee number one. My mentor and boss at the time said “Join us here. It will be a salary cut and a different way of life, but I promise you that within nine months you’ll have an MBA worthy experience.” It was 100% the truth. I’m not saying that will be the case for everyone, but there’s a lot that you can learn on the job in a small company without going into a horrendous debt for an MBA.

What constantly keeps you awake at night?

I used to be a chronic worrier and I didn’t sleep very well. That was probably mixed with my own anxiety around having younger kids at the time. Around the time of the pandemic I started taking my health a lot more seriously, working out and being a lot more mindful. I was taking care of myself, which I used to think was a selfish act. Looking back on it, it was incredibly selfish of me not to take care of myself because it impacted my family and employer. Now I sleep relatively well, I get my five and a half to six hours. 

Can you identify a single thread that has run through your career that’s led to your continued success?

For me it’s a couple of things. I had kids and got married very young. I probably would not be the focussed individual that I am today without having the family support that drives me to do well. It’s also the people that I work with. There’s a couple of folks that I’ve worked with over the past 10 years who I tend to bring on as advisors, colleagues or employees. Without a doubt that’s led to some success. If they’re still working with me after that long, perhaps we’re collectively doing something right.

What would be the one piece of advice that you’d give to others? 

My one piece of advice would be geared more toward younger professionals. Remote work in your early 20s sounds like a fantastic way to strike that work-life balance. However – and this is just the plain reality – getting face to face time with your colleagues and your boss really does matter. It’ll transform your career, so take any chance you get to be in person early on in your career.

To learn more about the man behind these insights, tune into Episode 27 of Executives Unpacked here.

Executives Unpacked Episode 26: No Limits with Keith Zubchevich

When it comes to your career, the sky’s the limit. On Episode 26 of Executives Unpacked we spoke to Keith Zubchevich, the President and CEO at Conviva, about his insights from a career in the tech industry. Keith has been through plenty of growth, IPOs and acquisitions, giving him unique insights into the development of the content and media sector. Read on to learn more about this fascinating leader. 

What’s the biggest lesson that you’ve learned during your career?

Anything is possible. When you come into a corporate job, you tend to think that there are all these rules, limits, lanes and parameters, but when you really start to get involved in different projects, you’ll look back and realise there were never any limits on what you could do. The only parameters that exist are the ones you put on yourself. The biggest lesson is to always think bigger, broader and at a higher level, because there really is no limit to what you can do in your career.

What do you wish someone had told you sooner?

I’ve always been really inquisitive. I was fascinated by corporate America. I never really took a job to just have a job, I always looked at my job as being a part of a company. My mentality was that I work for a company, I don’t do a job, therefore I always wanted to know more. I’ve benefited from not having things that I look back on and wish I had learned sooner. I don’t think I waited to be told because I was a bit impetuous, and I just tried to do it all.

What’s the best bit of advice that you’ve been given over the years?

There’s no one way to do anything. There is no blueprint in life. I think there’s always value in the mindset that there’s a better, faster, cheaper, more efficient way to do something, because that’s what pushes you. More importantly though, in any company I’ve been in, I really appreciated cultures that said ‘Don’t ever be afraid to try something’. I’ve been the beneficiary of cultures like that. We actually make it a core value that we should always learn and try to find new things. I always say that if you have that mentality, you’re going to be successful.

What types of things have constantly kept you awake at night?

I have this philosophy that if my day-time brain can deal with anything, my night-time brain can deal with anything too. What keeps me up at night is thinking of all the possibilities that can go wrong. The majority of things that keep you up at night probably wouldn’t stress you out during the day. I always say that the biggest competitor you’ll ever face is the voice in your own head. There is nothing that will be more restrictive, more competitive, or more adversarial to your success than that voice in your own head. And that voice comes out at night, right? It’s when you have your guards down, and that little voice starts running around saying ‘Oh man, there’s 50 things that can go wrong here!’ 

What I do is get up and force myself to wake up my logical brain and think about what I’m worried about. I spend five minutes closing it off in my head. When those things hit, wake up, stand up, walk around the house for a minute and just logically think ‘It’s not that big a deal. You got this’. The biggest problem is how to perceive problems with your logical brain versus the illogical brain that can run amok in the middle of the night. I call it the monkey brain, because it’s like a monkey banging on the keyboard in my head.

Can you identify a single thread that has consistently led to success?

I’m always competitive. If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing well. No matter what you choose to do, do it the best you can. I also have a ‘No Limits’ mentality. Like I said before, always look for that new and innovative way to do something. When you do that, doors open much faster. 

What one bit of advice do you always give to other people?

I always tell my people that there’s nothing you can break that I can’t fix. You’ll be much better off making bold decisions than you will being afraid. 

To learn more about the man behind the CEO title, tune into Episode 26 of Executives Unpacked here

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